Questions about Security

As you can read below, security cannot touch you .. or anyone else.  Unless your life is in danger, they can't do anything.  And if your life IS in danger, they will call the police.  Hope you can hold on until they show up.

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Short answer, nope. The operator has to call the control center to get permission to even leave the cab of the train. The best the operator can do is to let the control center know there is an issue, and the control center will notify security or the police.

It can take so long for either to meet the train that the issue is over with, or the obnoxious person has left the train by then.

That normally depends on which station. Stations downtown have a higher security presence, so are usually safer. Not that security can do anything, but having them there is a deterrent.

Stations on MLK are a different story. Robberies, shootings, the usual stuff. Stick with crowds, especially during darkness.

This one is a tough one. Metro (the buses) are VERY strict about lost and found. Bus operators turn lost and found in to their bases and they, in turn, turn it into Metro Lost and Found. Customers can call the lost and found office the following day or two and see if their stuff was turned in.

On the Train, it's a different animal. Operators tend to avoid lost and found because security deals with it. Security often doesn't turn it into Metro Lost and Found, unless it's a high dollar item like a laptop or a cell phone. Smaller items get kept at the security office at one of the terminals (University of Washington or Angle Lake). After a few days, the items are thrown away or taken home by security guards. You have to know that your stuff is there. If you call Metro Lost and Found, they will tell you they don't have it (because they don't). They don't know that it's sitting at the security office at UW station, because it's not supposed to be there. Security have thrown away bikes, clothes, water bottles, etc. So if you lose something worth less than a hundred bucks or so on the train, talk to security first.

Probably not.  Security can't touch you.  They can call a Deputy who can, but until that happens, they can't really do anything to you.  They rely on voluntary compliance.

Again, no. But they can call a deputy who can. How quickly a deputy shows up depends on what you were doing to make them want to call one in the first place.

Highly unlikely. People have been caught in the act of urinating in an elevator by a deputy, and not been arrested. You will probably get escorted out of the station. If you have a health issue, then the paramedics will be called.

Fare Enforcement has as much authority as security. But they do sometimes travel with a deputy, in which case .. hope you paid your fare.

Fare Enforcement cannot force you to do anything. They will verbally harrass you or hope you think they can make you show them your ID. They may even follow you off the train, but will stop once you leave the station and they see you don't care about them.
Again, unless they are travelling with a deputy. Also, they can call a deputy if they get the itch to, but if you've left the train and the station before that happens, or before the deputy shows up ...

People change cars all the time because of fare enforcement. They will exit the car fare enforcement gets on, then get right back on the train on a different car.

Often, if someone obviously leaves the train when they see fare enforcement get on, fare enforcement will follow them off the train and ask to see their fare. So if a group wants to travel, pay one fare. If fare enforcement gets on, have that one person 'spot' fare enforcement and make an obvious escape off the train. The officers should follow, and then that person can show they paid a fare. In the meantime, the train has left with the rest of the group.

Deciding that it's cheaper to let them ride than it is to keep pestering them, King County gives them free ORCA cards so they can ride without paying. Don't you feel great about paying for yours? Note that this is anecdotal and not yet verified. 

King County & Sound Transit are okay with this.

 

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